James Carrion   was the International Director of MUFON before Clifford Clift.  During his tenure an agreement was signed BAASS an aerospace company involved in developing commercial space travel. In this program  Carrion discusses openly with Jerry some details in the agreement and some of the events when this contract was in effect. He tells why it was discontinued. He also goes into detail about why he thinks there is influence on the MUFON board and their operation of the UFO reporting organization. The influence he says is from the US Government. He also tells why he has gone public and tells Jerry what he wants to happen with MUFON.

 (This program recorded February 7, 2011)

MP3 Running time: 44 minutes, 43 seconds

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