Part 1 - Clifford Clift, International Director for MUFON talks with Jerry about why there has been a shake up in several State Director's positions. He candidly goes down the list and gives his side to the story.

Clifford Clift Interview Part 2 - Cifford tells the details between MUFON and the Robert Bigelow organization in Las Vegas and explains when the agreement ended. He discusses what MUFON has done to replace this rapid response team offered by BAASS and talks about what has happened in cases being investigated in the past year including an encounter with a 3-and-a-half foot tall ET. Then the discussion focuses in on whether or not there is an effort by USG agencies to destroy MUFON.

(This interview recorded February 4, 2011)

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